Curse

Aris the Accurate · Feb 20, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

I am looking to purchase a new set of armor for my para. I have been debating betwen Centurion and Survivor. Both have good points, but im looking for a rounded set (works well in pve and pvp). So which set is more rounded? Thanks for the help. n_n

madriel222 · Feb 20, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27

I would go with Centurion. Taking less damage per blow makes life easier on your monks and over the long haul will keep you alive longer than a little extra health.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 20, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Survivor for both PvE and PvP.

Terraban · Feb 20, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

I'm an Armor-Addict.

Kyp Jade · Feb 20, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

arent there 10 other threads here in the paragon subforums about the same thing?

go centurions. 10 free armor.

Think about it this way
If you add 40 armor, you take 50% less damage
10 armor means you take 13% less damage.

Its worth more than the scant HP you gain from survivors

majikmajikmajik · Feb 20, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

mix both........

Faith Falls Fast · Feb 20, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik

mix both........

That is probably the worst option. Centurions effects aren't global, they only affect the armor piece they are attached to, thus you want to at least make sure they are on the chest and legs to ensure those are the spots hit the most. And for Survivors, it gives the largest boost to your health on the Chest and Leg pieces, overall it's pointless to mix them.

Terraban · Feb 20, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Faith Falls Fast

That is probably the worst option. Centurions effects aren't global, they only affect the armor piece they are attached to, thus you want to at least make sure they are on the chest and legs to ensure those are the spots hit the most. And for Survivors, it gives the largest boost to your health on the Chest and Leg pieces, overall it's pointless to mix them.

This post proves nothing...

The chest is hit 3x as much as the hands.
The armor would take effect 3x as much as on the hands.
The extra health would add 3x as much as it does on the hands.

Mixing and matching loses no effectiveness if the benefits of +armor = the benefits of +health.

Arkantos · Feb 20, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Extra health is useful in every situation, extra armor is not. I'd say +40 health is much more useful then +10 armor on a high armor midline character.

Shaz · Feb 20, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Survivor for both PvE and PvP.

+1. In PvE and PvP, paragons are rarely target at. +HP help in PvP when you accumulate some DP. Most kill in PvP are either made through spike which can contain a lot of armor ignoring damage or through health degeneration pressure with hexes and conditions. Both of which make Survivor a better choice. In PvE, it doesn't matter but I prefer Survivor there also.

Richardt · Feb 20, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

I would go with Centurions over Survivor.

But tbh....I use radiants on my para lol.

Arkantos · Feb 20, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Why do you use radiant insignias when you have leadership + shouts? Seems really useless.

Axel Zinfandel · Feb 20, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I use Centurion, since It seems better in the long run then a little more health. Personally, I'd rather enemies target me in PvE, rather then my heroes/henchies. Paragons have 80 armor and a shield for a reason, so buffing health for the soul reason of not being targeted seems silly.

mrmango · Feb 20, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

But armor isn't better in the long run for reasons stated by Shaz and Arkantos.
And you're right, they have 96 armor for a reason, why make it 106? Health wins more.

MisterB · Feb 21, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Health doesn't do anything unless you are at 1 HP. My Paragon is rarely targeted in PvE, and never drops that low. When I do get hit, Centurion reduces some forms of damage. Centurion is also cheaper, so I went with that.

But, since you want an all-purpose set(PvE and PvP), I have no comment on PvP Paragon armor.

Dodo The Extinct · Feb 21, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Get Survivor armour.

cellardweller · Feb 21, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Depends - If you're cheesing out a godmode para then you want survivors because you want to be the last one to be targetted by the ai. If you're not using pve skills then I'd go with centurions - when something is tearing up your mid/back line you want them to be on the highest AL target and the lower hp will make them choose you.

Shaz · Feb 21, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Personally, I'd rather enemies target me in PvE, rather then my heroes/henchies.

I don't worry about my H/H because they have +100 armor

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With TNTF reducing 35% of the damage, +10 Armor seem unnecessary. It's nice to have that +10 armor, yes. But I like to pick what's most useful, and extra health is always useful.

Coloneh · Feb 21, 2008, 07:02 AM // 07:02

mix. centurion's on pieces that get hit (chest and legs), survivors on the rest.

angmar_nite · Feb 21, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

mix. centurion's on pieces that get hit (chest and legs), survivors on the rest.

Then you'll get like +15 health which isn't very much...